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| Subject: | MobileLBSList: Re: building your own WAPsite with XyboWAP |
| Date: |
09/08/2000 11:05:17 AM |
| From: |
David Toushek |
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I Don't agree. I have absolutely no problem with a teeny display with a couple of words on it, and I use my PC for internet everyday---SO LONG AS I am able to something of value on my phone. For instance: My www internet provides incredible value to me all day. While my WAP internet only allows me to check the weather forecast and horoscope etc. <--Little value. But, If after work a friend and I decide to go to a movie, and I know that AMC Theatre has a WAP site, I am not going to go searching for a newspaper when I can use their site to check location, price, time, and reserve tickets. <--It provides MUCH VALUE.
As it is right now WAP carries little value to the end user. But show the user value (a little marketing effort from companies with WAPsites) and wap.com will become as big as wwww.com.
The same argument may have been made when the internet was first introduced - at a time when few companies had websites, it carried little value to the end user. Would it have been accurate to say then that because it was doomed in so many peoples minds, that it would always be doomed? A couple years later, millions do banking, purchase books, make reservations, gamble, play the stock market, and yes, check the weather, and horoscopes!
David
-----Original Message----- From: Emil Friis [mailto:emil.friis@air2web.com] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 10:58 AM To: mobilelbslist@geocomm.com Subject: Re: MobileLBSList: judging which wap phone to buy:
I'm not sure I really agree with that... I think the main reason is a combination of internet usage patterns and the way WAP has been marketed by the carriers. Very few people in Japan (I haven't seen any numbers for Korea), compared to Europe/US, actually use the internet through computers, so the phones have been an easy way of accessing the internet that they otherwise wouldn't have been able to use. It also means that they haven't had any particular expectations to what they were going to get.
In Europe and the US on the other hand, carriers have marketed WAP as the internet you can take with you everywhere. No wonder that people get disappointed when they expect the internet they know from their pc on their phone, and all they get is a teeny display with a couple of words on it.
The question is whether it is too late to change what people expect from WAP or if WAP has already been stamped as a failure in the mind of the public. If that is the case, no matter how many sites you build, people are not going to come and WAP is doomed.
Emil
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Toushek" <DavidT@optimicro.com> To: <fasol@eurotechnology.com> Cc: <mobilelbslist@geocomm.com> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 9:54 AM Subject: RE: MobileLBSList: judging which wap phone to buy:
> > Gerhard Fasol wrote: > > >WAP users worldwide: > > > >55% Japan > >31% Korea > >13% Europe > >1% Rest of World > > > >This has to do with business models and other factors, some of > >which you can find explained in our imode-FAQ: > > I think you would agree that the number one reason why there are so few > WAP users in the "Rest of the World" is because there simple are no > useful applications. But build it and they will come! > Check out this new point and click WAP builder from Xybo Systems > http://www.xybo.com/news/news_corp.html, and let me know what you think. > > This new development tool will allow anybody from novice to WML > programmer to build their WAP site easily. > This product will mean more USEFUL WAP sites available to the end user, > as is the case in Japan, Korea, and Europe. > > David > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gerhard Fasol [mailto:fasol@eurotechnology.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 12:14 AM > To: mobilelbslist-digest-help@GEOCOMM.COM: > Shubhro.Banerjee@Techspan.com: mobilelbslist@wirelessdevnet.com: > RKumar@opuswave.com: fasol@eurotechnology.com > Cc: mobilelbslist@GEOCOMM.COM > Subject: RE: MobileLBSList: judging which wap phone to buy: > > > > RKumar wrote: > > > > But really getting anything done on a WAP phone is quite a pain... > > This is not necessarily true: in Japan their are approx. 4 million > WAP users, and their numbers are increasing rapidly. > > Thus Japanese users seem to enjoy WAP phones, and don't seem to see > WAP as a pain - if they would, there is DoCoMo's imode waiting :) > > What is true however, is that WAP usage outside Japan & Korea is > pretty slow and the numbers below confirm you statement: > > WAP users worldwide: > > 55% Japan > 31% Korea > 13% Europe > 1% Rest of World > > This has to do with business models and other factors, some of > which you can find explained in our imode-FAQ: > http://www.eurotechnology.com/imode/faq.html > > Best regards, > > Gerhard Fasol > Eurotechnology Japan K. K. > http://www.eurotechnology.com/ > fasol@eurotechnology.com > > > To unsubscribe, write to mobilelbslist-unsubscribe@geocomm.com > ________________________________________________________________________ > The MobileLBSList is brought to you by The GeoCommunity and The > WirelessDeveloperNetwork > http://www.geocomm.com > http://www.wirelessdevnet.com > > > > To unsubscribe, write to mobilelbslist-unsubscribe@geocomm.com > ________________________________________________________________________ > The MobileLBSList is brought to you by The GeoCommunity and The WirelessDeveloperNetwork > http://www.geocomm.com > http://www.wirelessdevnet.com > > >
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