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| Subject: | RE: MobileLBSList: Re: building your own WAPsite with XyboWAP |
| Date: |
09/08/2000 12:32:32 PM |
| From: |
Myk O'leary |
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WAP doesn't lack value, it lacks the ability to show people what value it
can (and does) add.
I use the Yahoo address book and yellow pages VERY extensively to find
places, even in my own city. I use x.com to give micro payments to
co-workers at lunch. I use ticketmaster.com to buy tickets to shows. I use
eFrenzy to get vendor bids for things as simple as haircuts in cities where
I have no idea where places like this may be. I check traffic conditions at
trafficstation.com. I could go on and on with the many sites available on
my WAP phone that add tremendous value, and they're all available NOW.
There is plenty of value even beyond these examples. The problem is that
the user doesn't know this, even if they look for it. I know about them
because of the distribution lists I'm on, and the wireless sites I frequent.
We all need to stop worrying about what kind of value the devices have and
start figuring out a way to let the user know how to get to and use the
value that already exists and that is being created.
Myk.
-----Original Message-----
From: David Toushek [mailto:DavidT@optimicro.com]
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 8:45 AM
To: 'mobilelbslist@geocomm.com'
Subject: MobileLBSList: Re: building your own WAPsite with XyboWAP
I Don't agree. I have absolutely no problem with a teeny display with a
couple of words on it, and I use my PC for internet everyday---SO LONG
AS I am able to something of value on my phone.
For instance: My www internet provides incredible value to me all day.
While my WAP internet only allows me to check the weather forecast and
horoscope etc. <--Little value.
But, If after work a friend and I decide to go to a movie, and I know
that AMC Theatre has a WAP site, I am not going to go searching for a
newspaper when I can use their site to check location, price, time, and
reserve tickets. <--It provides MUCH VALUE.
As it is right now WAP carries little value to the end user. But show
the user value (a little marketing effort from companies with WAPsites)
and wap.com will become as big as wwww.com.
The same argument may have been made when the internet was first
introduced - at a time when few companies had websites, it carried
little value to the end user. Would it have been accurate to say then
that because it was doomed in so many peoples minds, that it would
always be doomed?
A couple years later, millions do banking, purchase books, make
reservations, gamble, play the stock market, and yes, check the weather,
and horoscopes!
David
-----Original Message-----
From: Emil Friis [mailto:emil.friis@air2web.com]
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 10:58 AM
To: mobilelbslist@geocomm.com
Subject: Re: MobileLBSList: judging which wap phone to buy:
I'm not sure I really agree with that... I think the main reason is a
combination of internet usage patterns and the way WAP has been marketed
by
the carriers. Very few people in Japan (I haven't seen any numbers for
Korea), compared to Europe/US, actually use the internet through
computers,
so the phones have been an easy way of accessing the internet that they
otherwise wouldn't have been able to use. It also means that they
haven't
had any particular expectations to what they were going to get.
In Europe and the US on the other hand, carriers have marketed WAP as
the
internet you can take with you everywhere. No wonder that people get
disappointed when they expect the internet they know from their pc on
their
phone, and all they get is a teeny display with a couple of words on it.
The question is whether it is too late to change what people expect from
WAP
or if WAP has already been stamped as a failure in the mind of the
public.
If that is the case, no matter how many sites you build, people are not
going to come and WAP is doomed.
Emil
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Toushek" <DavidT@optimicro.com>
To: <fasol@eurotechnology.com>
Cc: <mobilelbslist@geocomm.com>
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 9:54 AM
Subject: RE: MobileLBSList: judging which wap phone to buy:
>
> Gerhard Fasol wrote:
>
> >WAP users worldwide:
> >
> >55% Japan
> >31% Korea
> >13% Europe
> >1% Rest of World
> >
> >This has to do with business models and other factors, some of
> >which you can find explained in our imode-FAQ:
>
> I think you would agree that the number one reason why there are so
few
> WAP users in the "Rest of the World" is because there simple are no
> useful applications. But build it and they will come!
> Check out this new point and click WAP builder from Xybo Systems
> http://www.xybo.com/news/news_corp.html, and let me know what you
think.
>
> This new development tool will allow anybody from novice to WML
> programmer to build their WAP site easily.
> This product will mean more USEFUL WAP sites available to the end
user,
> as is the case in Japan, Korea, and Europe.
>
> David
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gerhard Fasol [mailto:fasol@eurotechnology.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 12:14 AM
> To: mobilelbslist-digest-help@GEOCOMM.COM:
> Shubhro.Banerjee@Techspan.com: mobilelbslist@wirelessdevnet.com:
> RKumar@opuswave.com: fasol@eurotechnology.com
> Cc: mobilelbslist@GEOCOMM.COM
> Subject: RE: MobileLBSList: judging which wap phone to buy:
>
>
> > RKumar wrote:
> >
> > But really getting anything done on a WAP phone is quite a pain...
>
> This is not necessarily true: in Japan their are approx. 4 million
> WAP users, and their numbers are increasing rapidly.
>
> Thus Japanese users seem to enjoy WAP phones, and don't seem to see
> WAP as a pain - if they would, there is DoCoMo's imode waiting :)
>
> What is true however, is that WAP usage outside Japan & Korea |
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