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| Subject: | Re: Wireless Dev: WAP unique identifier |
| Date: |
06/15/2000 08:28:11 AM |
| From: |
Emil Friis |
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Yeah, I agree there are a lot of privacy issues involved in a unique
identifier. Particularly if the phone number is a part of it as it used to
be at Sprint(still is? they announced it was going to change but I don't
know if that only applies to new phones).
On the other hand - from a developers point of view and for that matter for
the end user - it can make life a lot easier. Particularly if you are
working on an app that requires authentification. It doesn't seem like there
has been much noise about the %deviceid on the Palm VII - doesn't Palm.net
even give you the Zip-code of the device? But maybe that has something to do
with the fact that the people using Palm VII's to a large extent are the
same business people who want to access exactly that kind of information :-)
It would be great if we could also have non-technical discussions like this
here. Issues like where do we think the Wireless technologies are going and
where do we want them to go, both as developers and users.
Thanks,
Emil
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Morgan" <bryan@wirelessdevnet.com>
To: <wirelesslist@wirelessdevnet.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: Wireless Dev: WAP unique identifier
> It is phone.com-specific. Alot of different groups are very concerned
about
> the privacy issues involved with mobile applications so I would be
surprised
> to see many other vendors step up and include this feature.
>
> It's a complicated issue which I find very interesting. Obviously, being
> able to check these "phone ids" would be very useful from a server-side
> point of view. It seems like they could build a capability into the
> microbrowsers that allow you to turn this off...kind of like you can turn
> off cookies now in traditional browsers. In addition, to the phone number
> being sent as part of the HTTP header, I think it's just a matter of time
> before some type of spatial coordinates are broadcast as well (lat/long,
> etc.). Again, you should be able to turn this off if you so desired.
>
> Bryan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Emil Friis <emil.friis@air2web.com>
> To: John Morse <John.Morse@uk.circle.com>:
<wirelesslist@wirelessdevnet.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 7:40 AM
> Subject: Re: Wireless Dev: WAP unique identifier
>
>
> > Actually I meant the unique identifier for the individual phone not just
> the
> > phone/browser type. Is there such a concept in the WAP specs or is it
> > Phone.com specific?
> >
> > Emil
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Morse" <John.Morse@uk.circle.com>
> > To: "'Emil Friis'" <emil.friis@air2web.com>:
> > <wirelesslist@wirelessdevnet.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 8:29 AM
> > Subject: RE: Wireless Dev: WAP unique identifier
> >
> >
> > > should be able to get the suffix using
> > > HTTP_USER_AGENT
> > > in asp
> > >
> > >
> > > all the phone type should return a value, (ie NOK for nokia, or
similar
> > for
> > > Nokia phones)
> > >
> > > sorry don't have a comprehensive list of phone suffixs
> > >
> > >
> > > regrds
> > > J
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Emil Friis [mailto:emil.friis@air2web.com]
> > > > Sent: 15 June 2000 13:19
> > > > To: wirelesslist@wirelessdevnet.com
> > > > Subject: Wireless Dev: WAP unique identifier
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > Does anyone know how it looks with unique identifiers for WAP
> > > > phones? I know that if teh carrier uses a Phone.com gateway
> > > > the phones will have HTTP_X_UP_SUBNO in the header, but how
> > > > about other gateways? Is there anything in the WAP1.1 or
> > > > WAP1.2 specs about this (I haven't had the time to look yet)?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Emil Friis
> > > > Wireless Applications Consultant
> > > > Emil.Friis@Air2Web.com
> > > > 250 14th Street, NW
> > > > Suite 4001
> > > > Atlanta, GA 30318
> > > > ph: 404 872 6735
> > > > fax: 404 873 1253
> > > > ----------------------------
> > > > I've got no strings
> > > > To hold me down
> > > > To make me fret, or make me frown
> > > > I had strings
> > > > But now I'm free
> > > > There are no strings on me
> > > >
> > > > Hi-ho the me-ri-o
> > > > That's the only way to go
> > > > I want the world to know
> > > > Nothing ever worries me
> > > > - Pinocchio
> > > >
> > >
>
>
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