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Subject: Re: MobileLBSList: Article slamming wireless web
Date:  10/30/2000 08:40:02 AM
From:  Bryan Morgan

Don't leave yet - we're not done with you!! :-)

I guess the biggest complaint I commonly hear with this sort of article is
that you're bashing WAP (I think the word you used was "sucks" - a word
always sure to polarize an audience!). Wouldn't it be more accurate to slam
the "experience" not the display/markup technology being used? I know it's
perhaps a narrow differentiation but to those working to build out these
technologies, the differentiation is important. In and of itself, WAP
simply handles the transfer and display of the document. Assuming the
document displays correctly on your device and within a reasonable amount of
time, it seems to me to have done its job.

The real problems lie, I think, in screen size, data input, and lack of
yet-to-be implemented services. I believe that the ability to seamlessly
integrate your current location (or the location of a target relative to
you) into an application suddenly makes mobile applications very compelling
for specific situations. Add in complementary "support" such as voice
portals and personalization and you begin to approach the killer app.

Bryan

----- Original Message -----
From: wj gilmore <wjgilmore@hotmail.com>
To: <mobilelbslist@wirelessdevnet.com>
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: MobileLBSList: Article slamming wireless web


> Hi everyone,
>
> I've been a passive member of this list for quite some time, but couldn't
> help but reply to this posting, since I'm the author of the article. :)
>
> Yes, I'm in agreement with Mr. Hundal that in fact this is a subject that
> has been repeatedly hammered on in publications, but I feel that it is a
> by-product of the incredible hype generated by a technology that has since
> largely been deflated due to its inherent shortcomings.
>
> Unquestionably, the wireless data communications will become a part of
both
> everyday personal and organizational activities in the future: I think we
> can all agree upon this. However, it is of my personal opinion that WAP,
> although on the surface an interesting technology, has surfaced in large
> part due to the telcos. feeling that getting anything out of the starting
> gate is better than nothing. While this isn't necessarily a problem, I
find
> it difficult to swallow the continued promises that it will change the way
> we communicate.
>
> However, given the harried pace upon which development of wireless
> technologies continue, it will only be a matter of time before these
> shortcomings are supplanted by a modification to current transmission
> pricing structures (i.e. from time to content charging), a hybrid of
> cellphone and pda, and higher transmission speeds. Again, this is
something
> that we can all agree upon. In fact, the Ericsson R380
> (http://www.ericsson.com/R380/) goes a long way towards eliminating the
> human interface problem, in a very interesting implementation of a
pen-based
> PDA and cellphone.
>
> My main beef lies in the continued hype generated by a technology that, as
> telecommunications analyst Paul Budde so eloquently put it, is crap
> (http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/2000/25/ns-16330.html).
>
> But hey, what do I know? I have to muddle through my menial existence with
> half a brain... At least I'm doing it fashionably.
>
> By the way, I love the list, and love WirelessDevNet. Keep up the great
> work.
>
> Sincerely,
> William J. Gilmore
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Sandeep Hundal" <sandeep@wde.org>
> >To: <mobilelbslist@wirelessdevnet.com>
> >Subject: Re: MobileLBSList: Article slamming wireless web
> >Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 01:21:56 +0100
> >
> >I think that's the 50 millionth time i've seen an article like that. i
get
> >this feeling that half these people work on fashion... one minute it's
> >fashionable to talk about the wireless revolution, the next minute it's
> >fashionable to deride the idea until "the technology changes".
> >
> >Sorry to say this but that article could have been written by anyone with
> >half a brain who reads up on various wireless websites. It had nothing
new
> >or interesting :(
> >
> >just my .02 euros
> >
> >/sandeep
> >sandeep@wde.org
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Bryan Morgan" <bryan@wirelessdevnet.com>
> >To: <mobilelbslist@wirelessdevnet.com>
> >Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 3:58 AM
> >Subject: MobileLBSList: Article slamming wireless web
> >
> >
> > > Interesting article at WebReview.com:
> > > http://webreview.com/pub/2000/10/27/feature/index03.html
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