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| Subject: | Re: MobileLBSList: Meet the new boss...Same as the old boss? |
| Date: |
11/08/2000 09:19:17 AM |
| From: |
Hung-Hsien Chang |
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Hopefully this is the last about Visual C++.
Nothing is VERY WRONG about Visual stduio. But stating it as one of the
finest software development tool is NOT TRUE. ( to me.)
Aso for EPOC, let me quote what CEO of RIM said, "it's dead. I am sorry.
But it is going to die. They have no revenue."
Give the programming environment you can choose from: J2ME ( which
I think will be prevailing if they (SUN) do it right this time.)
Microsoft ( stinger should have some programming IDE coming out,
I don't know, hopefully it is not the stripped down versino of Window CE.)
EPOC doesn't seem to stand a chance in the world market.
But it is fun to program. One more language, it's fun.
Hubert
On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Richard Bloor wrote:
> So what's so wrong with Visual Studio, at least with Visual C++ you can
> right really cool applications for EPOC! Now I'm holding my breath, I
> wonder how much harder that will get with the next C++ version? However you
> have to admire Symbian for using what is effectively the competitions
> product to build a better platform than theirs.
>
> Richard Bloor
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hung-Hsien Chang <hubert@cs.nyu.edu>
> To: Dimitri Rotow <dar@manifold.net>
> Cc: Bryan Morgan <bryan@wirelessdevnet.com>:
> <mobilelbslist@wirelessdevnet.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, 8 November 2000 15:39
> Subject: RE: MobileLBSList: Meet the new boss...Same as the old boss?
>
>
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Dimitri Rotow wrote:
> > >
> > > Dream on. People often buy Microsoft because they get what they need at
> > > super value.
> >
> > Well, NOT REALLY, they did make progress for the past 10 years.
> > But in the same time, they have either wiped off the competitors
> > or bought them. You like office, well, power point is bought,
> > they didn't really develop it. Front page is bought, they didn't
> > develope it...etc
> >
> > >
> > > I happen to like Office because I like getting a suite of cool
> applications
> > > with zillions of useful features at a ludicrously low price. Visual
> Studio
> > > is one of the finest development tools ever created in any environment,
> >
> > HAAA!!!!!!!!!! Visual Studio is one of the finest development tools?!
> > My goodness, which century you live in?!!! What kind of developer
> > are you? Gezzzzz. tell me, please do tell me, what application
> > have you actually written using Visual Studio? ( Wait, you mean
> > Visual Basic, Not Win32 API right? I mean serious lower level deveopment
> > not the MFC stuff.)
> >
> > > period. That's why we use it. Microsoft has big time credibility and a
> > > history of working very hard to get products right even if they fall
> short
> > > in early versions. They have superb ISV programs and make it really
> easy
> > > for developers to support their products, so lots of other applications
> will
> > > work with Microsoft products. Even if they didn't own Windows, these
> would
> > > all be great incentives to be interested in their products.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Dimitri
> >
> > Tell me the ISV program. Love to know. The developers I have run
> > into all complain that Microsoft want to get their clients
> > list.
> >
> > Dimitri, I award you the best sweat talk for Microsoft price of the year.
> > You should really work for them. They need people like you.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hubert
> >
> >
> >
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