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| Subject: | Re: MobileLBSList: Meet the new boss...Same as the old boss? |
| Date: |
11/08/2000 11:27:09 AM |
| From: |
Bryan Morgan |
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At this point, Hubert, I'd like to ask you what you *really* think.
:-)
Bryan
----- Original Message -----
From: Hung-Hsien Chang <hubert@cs.nyu.edu>
To: Richard Bloor <sherpa@netlink.co.nz>
Cc: <mobilelbslist@wirelessdevnet.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: MobileLBSList: Meet the new boss...Same as the old boss?
>
>
> Hopefully this is the last about Visual C++.
>
> Nothing is VERY WRONG about Visual stduio. But stating it as one of the
> finest software development tool is NOT TRUE. ( to me.)
>
> Aso for EPOC, let me quote what CEO of RIM said, "it's dead. I am sorry.
> But it is going to die. They have no revenue."
>
>
> Give the programming environment you can choose from: J2ME ( which
> I think will be prevailing if they (SUN) do it right this time.)
> Microsoft ( stinger should have some programming IDE coming out,
> I don't know, hopefully it is not the stripped down versino of Window CE.)
> EPOC doesn't seem to stand a chance in the world market.
>
> But it is fun to program. One more language, it's fun.
>
>
> Hubert
>
>
>
> On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Richard Bloor wrote:
>
> > So what's so wrong with Visual Studio, at least with Visual C++ you can
> > right really cool applications for EPOC! Now I'm holding my breath, I
> > wonder how much harder that will get with the next C++ version? However
you
> > have to admire Symbian for using what is effectively the competitions
> > product to build a better platform than theirs.
> >
> > Richard Bloor
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Hung-Hsien Chang <hubert@cs.nyu.edu>
> > To: Dimitri Rotow <dar@manifold.net>
> > Cc: Bryan Morgan <bryan@wirelessdevnet.com>:
> > <mobilelbslist@wirelessdevnet.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, 8 November 2000 15:39
> > Subject: RE: MobileLBSList: Meet the new boss...Same as the old boss?
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Dimitri Rotow wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dream on. People often buy Microsoft because they get what they
need at
> > > > super value.
> > >
> > > Well, NOT REALLY, they did make progress for the past 10 years.
> > > But in the same time, they have either wiped off the competitors
> > > or bought them. You like office, well, power point is bought,
> > > they didn't really develop it. Front page is bought, they didn't
> > > develope it...etc
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I happen to like Office because I like getting a suite of cool
> > applications
> > > > with zillions of useful features at a ludicrously low price. Visual
> > Studio
> > > > is one of the finest development tools ever created in any
environment,
> > >
> > > HAAA!!!!!!!!!! Visual Studio is one of the finest development tools?!
> > > My goodness, which century you live in?!!! What kind of developer
> > > are you? Gezzzzz. tell me, please do tell me, what application
> > > have you actually written using Visual Studio? ( Wait, you mean
> > > Visual Basic, Not Win32 API right? I mean serious lower level
deveopment
> > > not the MFC stuff.)
> > >
> > > > period. That's why we use it. Microsoft has big time credibility
and a
> > > > history of working very hard to get products right even if they fall
> > short
> > > > in early versions. They have superb ISV programs and make it really
> > easy
> > > > for developers to support their products, so lots of other
applications
> > will
> > > > work with Microsoft products. Even if they didn't own Windows,
these
> > would
> > > > all be great incentives to be interested in their products.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Dimitri
> > >
> > > Tell me the ISV program. Love to know. The developers I have run
> > > into all complain that Microsoft want to get their clients
> > > list.
> > >
> > > Dimitri, I award you the best sweat talk for Microsoft price of the
year.
> > > You should really work for them. They need people like you.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hubert
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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