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Subject: Re: MobileLBSList: Looking for feedback.....
Date:  08/16/2000 10:23:00 AM
From:  creediii@mindspring.com

Hi -

Actually, there are any number of available technologies for determining the
location of a cell phone. While these may not be well known in the US, there
definitely are in Europe and Japan. I refer you to a white paper by Mobile
Lifestreams titled, "An Introduction to Mobile Positioning". I believe there
is a short version that is free and a lengthy (300+ pages) version available
for US $250.00. See also www.mobilePositioning.com. There is also an
excellent 3 paper series by John Davies available through
www.anywhereyougo.com. The real issue, as has been pointed out, is how you
track millions of mobile devices. But that is something I am sure the
telco's will figure out. Of more interest to me (being a geographer) is what
packaging, interface specs, and protocols will be used to communicate
"geography" with the devices. I refer you to the IETF BoF on SLoP. How is
that for a bundle for three letter acronyms :-) There are also some very
difficult security and privacy issues that are currently being heavily
debated.

Cheers

Carl Reed


----- Original Message -----
From: Hung-Hsien Chang <hubert@cs.nyu.edu>
To: Geoff Hendrey <geoff@grvt8.com>
Cc: Charlie Van Dusen <dusen@mediaone.net>:
<mobilelbslist@Wirelessdevnet.Com>: Bryan Morgan <bryan@Wirelessdevnet.Com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: MobileLBSList: Looking for feedback.....


>
>
>
> On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Geoff Hendrey wrote:
>
> > I disagree with that. I think there is a great deal of complexity in
determining who is near
> > what or whom whn we are dealing with high transaction volumes and moving
point data :-)
> >
>
> Yes. high volumes and moving points are tough load balancing quesiotn.
>
> But my point was that since there is NO GPS installed in the phone(or
> most of the phone) knowing the location would be the key and difficult
> problem NOW.
>
> So it should be "The rest is easier part." Retract my "easy" part.
> If one is going to bring all the real case scenario into the disucssion.
> NOTHING IS easy. All need work.
>
> Hubert
>
>
>
> > Hung-Hsien Chang wrote:
> >
> > > Well. The whole key point is automatically knowing where on earth
> > > are you. The rest is the easy part.
> > >
> > > Hubert
> > >
> > > On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Charlie Van Dusen wrote:
> > >
> > > > I will hope to summarize www.WhereEverYouGo.com for the subscribers
of this
> > > > list.
> > > >
> > > > Basically, I ask the user to establish their own location (which
must be
> > > > somewhere in the US at this point. Once location is established, I
allow
> > > > them to search on any number of layers.
> > > >
> > > > The site technologies are c++, IIS, SQL Server.
> > > >
> > > > I have found that the most challenging part to date has been
supporting a
> > > > growing list of devices that want different output (HTML, WML,
HDML)..
> > > >
> > > > I hope your next attempt to get to www.WhereEverYouGo.com will be a
success.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > Charlie
> > > >
> > > > ----------
> > > > From: Bryan Morgan[SMTP:bryan@wirelessdevnet.com]
> > > > Reply To: Bryan Morgan
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 10:53 PM
> > > > To: mobilelbslist@wirelessdevnet.com
> > > > Subject: Re: MobileLBSList: Looking for feedback.....
> > > >
> > > > I tried it but it said the service was unavailable. I'll try it
later. In
> > > > the meantime, for those without the spare time or without a WAP
device,
> > > > would you mind explaining in a bit more detail what your app does?
How do
> > > > you access the location? What are you using on the back-end to
perform a
> > > > lookup? Finally, how are you handling the WAP and HTML Output (XSLT
or
> > > > something else?)?
> > > >
> > > > Sorry for all the questions...but we're all basically geeks here :-)
> > > >
> > > > Bryan
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Charlie Van Dusen <dusen@mediaone.net>
> > > > To: <mobilelbslist@wirelessdevnet.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 3:18 PM
> > > > Subject: MobileLBSList: Looking for feedback.....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi
> > > > >
> > > > > I am a wireless developer looking for feedback on a WAP site. I
welcome
> > > > any
> > > > > comments. The site delivers location-based information for any
location in
> > > > > the US and handles WAP devices and HTML browsers using the same
code base.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you are keen to evaluate, please go to:
> > > > >
> > > > > www.WhereEverYouGo.com
> > > > >
> > > > > TIA
> > > > >
> > > > > Charlie Van Dusen
> > > > > dusen@mediaone.net
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > To unsubscribe, write to mobilelbslist-unsubscribe@geocomm.com
> > > > >
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